Patrick Carolan points out that we need to be transformative: “We have to be in right relationship with all of Creation, and when we are in right relationship with Creation, then, and only then, we will be in right relationship with God.”

In this interview, Patrick Carolan refers to the publication of two volumes on the history and thematics of INTERSPIRITUALITY. The volumes have features by the Dalai Lama and 120 other global spiritual leaders.
For more info, see: https://www.lightonlight.us/2025/09/15/interspiritualvolumes/ and the Muffin Talk with Rev Dr Kurt Johnson.