Muffin Talk with Jill Shaw

Jill Shaw is a Christian chaplain at Massey University offering spiritual support to people of all faiths and none.
Currently, Jill is part of a project that is called “Inclusive Faith”.
Behind the project are the Ministry of Social Development, the Ministry for Disabled People, Yes! Disability, Inclusive Aotearoa Collective and The Religious Diversity Centre, the RDC.
This interview follows up on a Muffin Talk that was recorded in 2022.

Listen here to the interview and learn about the experiences from the Inclusive Faith Project.
There is more information on the project on the newly launched website at

The first interview with Jill is still available on YouTube here.