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Here are the recordings of the two speakers:
Part 1 – Mary in the Scriptures (Kieran Fenn fms)
Part 2 – Mary in the Catholic Tradition (Prof Thomas O’Loughlin)
Listen to the Muffin Talk interview with Kieran Fenn fms on Mary Magdalene and with Prof Thomas O’Loughlin on the Women in Jesus’ Time & Today here below on YouTube.